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Today Quindell (QPP) has admitted that it can only continue to trade because its banks have not (yet) pulled its overdraft. It had flagged up that mammoth writedowns of revenue unwisely recognised which was bogus and of goodwill is on the way. It has not explained why it bought a company from a convicted Nigerian fraudster for £30 million. And some folks think this is good news. For example…
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zeronegative
More shite from the QPP clown Robbajob, should be starting his evening shift at 7.00pm this evening – I wonder who writes this stuff for him to cut and paste – no mention of write-downs, possible frauds, insider dealing, current cash balance etc…
I wonder who the employer is who pays him.
“the current price range is where it is off the back off scaremongering…things like its gonna run out of cash, countdown to the end, staff arent getting paid, gone by xmas, lost big contract etc etc rubbush.
ALL OF WHICH ARE COMPLETELY UNTRUE….ie LIES
Quindells game this year was to acquire and further grow and have enough cash to deliver that growth until the cash starts increasing to the point of cash positive and increasing cash inflows.
Clearly Quindell have achieved this and the cash from legal services IS INCREASING (as per rns)
Quindells business has a time lag built into this type of business and that that time lag is reducing and cash collection is increasing.
Some businesses going through a positive phase of acquisition and high growth takes years to go cash positive, QUINDELL DID IT IN THE SAME YEAR!
This isnt about will the cash come in, THE CASH WILL COME IN.
It was about would Quindell need extra cash to see it into the big 2015 cash generation
The rns clearly tells us Qundell has plenty cash and plenty backup to see it through this phase and generate the cash from a very strong business.
Ie. nothing like what the doomsters have said and nothing even mildly valued as low as it has been for so long now.
Remember the cash grew by £0.2m last quarter(if you strip out the £6.5 loan payment)
Nobody pays down loans if they arent sure they have enough cash for this phase!
Tax is paid up to date too.
I expect from reading between the lines and the upbeat tone, there will be an inflow but smaller, BUT IT IS STILL AN INFLOW and NOT RUNNING OUT OF CASH!
Qundell will collect circa £700m – £800m in 2015 in cash
I think you might find that produces a lot of cash inflow!”
paul hard on
what a boring old tosser winnifrith is turning into banging on and on about qpp every day
old news. and fxcking boring news.
Duff
Jmills
Posts: 106
Research
Opinion: Strong Buy
Price: 57.75
View Thread (4)RE: Troll RemunerationToday 15:43Heard TW Restuarant pizza shack has gone bust from a good source .We can only hope ..I,ve been there dreadful place
Duff
chasf
Posts: 558
Observation
Opinion: No Opinion
Price: 57.00
View Thread (7)RE: very positive RNSToday 15:53I had a look at Himex in particular when someone questioned the valuation (prompted by a tipster’s “analysis”) a few weeks ago, and I concluded that it was probably worth at least that, certainly on the US market. That’s assuming they have all that, so I looked a little closer at it. I concluded that it it was a fake they’d involved a lot of serious people with real names and a suitable history of making things, which seemed improbable to me.
Fakes or even just scams I’ve seen are typically a little vague about the details.
By contrast, the only real deception in this whole sorry affair has been by Tiger with its shell companies, which hide behind deceptive names. The transparency is not always where you need it.
Duff
MasterRSI
Posts: 138
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Observation
Opinion: Strong Buy
Price: 57.25
Is T W still paying the trolls?Today 15:07It looks like today are acting like “ desesperados “
today as the bounce with volume is pointing to a rebounce like 3 weeks ago.
The volume speaks louder than the “ trolls “ today, so start buying back is my “message “
note : naturally I took a position earlier on
zeronegative
Posted at the weekend by the Pinocchio of the QPP LSE board Robbajob – he’s found a way of buying stock at higher prices and having half of it for free. I wonder if this investing genius can explain how he has done this incredible feat. This was posted at 2.00am in the morning, says everything about him and his life.
“you keep going on about my 118p “doubling up”
well let me tell you this bigshot
i actually said that at 121p
the price if you check the records shot down so quick i didnt get the double up
so i held back and my next buy was in the 80s…so you are totally wrong there yet again
remember the 115.5p gap?
and for the record i bought in a smart way, not the way you think i bought
iv actually already paid for half of my entire holding
so go scratch your head bigboy, cos this investor isnt stupid and has outsmarted you by a country mile
half my holding is free
so so you think im really bothered what you ever say
how much of your loss(yeah yeah, you never held a single share you liar) was free?
how do you think iv survived for 20 years on this mindfield?
by being smart
something you only aspire to
nite nite”
RPC
iii
13:38 mr reliable
“Just by getting PWC involved gives Quindell credibility.”
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Yeah, like the way a Police Complaints Commission investigation into alleged police corruption gives credibility to the police under investigation!
For their own health and wealth these people shouldn’t be let loose in a penny arcade in Blackpool, never mind the AIM casino.
After a while one’s sympathy for these wilfully delusional souls tends to evaporate – much as their QPP investment has done. These dumb-asses have been led to the water, had their noses shoved in the trough and yet they still won’t drink.
It seems some people just refuse to be helped. On their own heads be it.
Phil
I cannot think of a single thing to add to this one
QBArtist
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RE: oh dear
Today 13:58
Spoysey, if the banks call in the loan, the break up value is at least 5x what it is now, so win-win for the investors.
Struie
Tom,
This is what these morons think is more important.
Petitions on https://www.change.org/search?q=quindell
1.Get the SFO to to investigate Rob Terry: Supporters 118
2.Enforce or change the ruling under Section 21 of the Financial Services & Markets Act to ensure that Bloggers, share tipsters and ‘financial journalists’ such as found on ShareProphets.com have to be fully registered on the Financial Services Register.
Supporters currently 229!
Second petition started by the high priest of the cult of Quenron shareholders or COQs which is a nice abbreviation!
Struie
Tom, A real gem from the change.org petition comments!
“Graham Chapman PORTSMOUTH, UNITED KINGDOM
about 1 hour ago Liked 0These people are unregulated (but project themselves as experts) and causing many inexperienced investors to lose money due to their one sided view of a particular company (Quindell). G”
Well, considering you have been advising to sell for a while I don’t think this chap quite gets the irony in his comment!
zeronegative
It appears that QPP1000 is now providing data for the pathetic Quindell Echo (Steamy’s latest project?) – explains the shite that that blogger puts out on a daily basis – does Steamy want Quindell Echo regulated as well?. Wonder how QPP1000’s wife is feeling – she bought £50k at £1.23 – Ouch!!. Site has never had a single reply to any of the articles, its soooo popular:))))
“Conclusion
When shorters are aware via a Quindell update that adjusted operating inflow (before tax, interest and exceptionals) is £35million, or greater, they will close their positions in earnest.
Quindell is unusual in that it is in a healthy net cash position with positive cash flows. Many companies growing like Quindell will be envious of Quindell’s cash resources.
It is laughable that Quindell’s detractors can claim the business is verging on insolvency.”
JUSTCURIOUS
Away from Quindell, but I understood from previous posts that you were widening the field on this thread.
I would like to nominate that most illustrious of gentlemen, Associate-Professor Ben Edelman of Harvard Business School.
Ben has strong views about what constitutes ethical behaviour in the restaurant business – one can only hope that the Real Man Pizza Company meets his expectations!
http://www.boston.com/food-dining/restaurants/2014/12/09/harvard-business-school-professor-goes-war-over-worth-chinese-food/KfMaEhab6uUY1COCnTbrXP/story.html
(Just type in “Boston” and “Ben Edelman” into Google if the link does not work)
Perhaps the next time someone wishes to use Ben’s analysis of Blinkx to accuse them of “illegal” activities, they may wish to pause and consider what constitutes “a serious violation” of the law in Ben’s world view.
No prize or recognition for my submission required, all I would ask is that Tom publishes any subsequent correspondence he has with Ben on this matter, for the wider amusement of the ShareProphets audience. We all know what Tom thinks of people who send out threatening lawyers letters…
Restaurant operators of the world, UNITE!!
Forty Two
The BB guys will be fine – they know how to average down. At first you paid a higher price then a lower one. Subtract the new average price from the initial price and the difference is your profit! It’s easy this game…
alcira16247
Tom
As even the most deluded QPP’s bulls starts to worry that things might not be quite right! I have to report a splat between the two most uber Quindell fanatic’s!
The infamous, “I bet me farm”, K3VMC strikes out at erstwhile ally optrade!
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K3VMC
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View Thread (19) RE: Why Quindell Could Be Out Of Cash
Today 10:19 optrade, I blame you for this fall.
If you had been ramping every five minutes when the sp was in the 60’s, instead of mumbling vague doom and gloom, “maybe into the 40’s this afternoon”, we would never have dropped this low!!
I guess the “op” in “optrade” stands for opportunistic? At least you posts are much less depressing now, so I’m just going to enjoy that thought while the sp is in the doldrums.
No offence meant.
ATB
:-))
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As K3VMC has proven in the past, to be totally devoid of humour or irony, I’m taking this as a serious comment, from one of the most vocal of the deluded morons that are holding on to this POS company!
Elrico
I bet nobody seen that RNS coming ….. lol
It could be that I’m being harsh and RT is raising a few bob for he shareholders Christmas party.
TW9120
lse.co.uk
Divermike
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“Im looking to get in and suspect a lot of other people are, nothing has changed with the company since yesterday except 1 person selling”
Juicin Drumroll
From the QPP bearcast comments of today after RT sells millions of shares.
Just goes to show ignorance can be educated, crazy can be medicated, but there ain’t no cure for STUPID!
Sam
10 December 2014, 15:44
What a foul mouthed turd you are. No mention of the contracts wins I see, typical biased journalism. Little wonder Terry has a lot more money than you
Juicin Drumroll
FFS!
foreverfalling
10 Dec’14 – 15:57 – 18281 of 18311 0 0
The bears although maybe not 100% right have been right enough that had they been more convincing (instead of patronising) they could have saved many people money.
Juicin Drumroll
What can you say when confronted with this level of naivety & stupidity?
goldust88
Posts: 123
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Price: 32.75
Today 18:48
RE: TW apology
Its to early yet to say TW was right or did he cause the fear that led to all this happening after the Gotham Report, had he not kept blogging, maybe we would all have a different view with Quindells share price at an all time high.
One thing is sure, TW has caused Aim to be nearly uninvestable as people are living in fear as to what bloggers may say next to knock share prices. TW has made Aim a worse place to invest in as he only knocks shares and shorters are doing the same in copy cat fashion .
dasv
lse types coming over to advfn’s 0p thread.
I thought hmgouda deserved an entry, but then steveglobal4 came along.
Occam’s razor, people.
hmgouda 10 Dec’14 – 19:16 – 18367 of 18376 0 0
I still believe that the insiders got the share down to the level we have seen today so they buy the share very cheap. Although I believe on the company business I do not trust the management any more specially after the sequence of today’s news release. Think about it…..
steveglobal4 10 Dec’14 – 19:18 – 18368 of 18376 0 0
maybe rt is selling his stock and replacing with tax free spread bets, if he does and it rises like he said it would, he will make a tax free fortune from here, it seriously would not surprise me if he loaded up today.
steveglobal4 10 Dec’14 – 19:19 – 18370 of 18378 0 0
or maybe rob terry has sold his stock for cash, to buy the company with others and take it private, I do not trust anyone anymore, someone is going to pounce here and by this company now for under £1 a share.
Juicin Drumroll
ADVFN.
simon_64 10 Dec’14 – 20:01 – 19597 of 19604 0 0
Can’t believe my luck picked up 10k at 27.5, I would just like to thank Gotham, Tom and his little acolyte CR.
hedonista
Just spotted a Greater Spotted Twerp (from the Daily Telegraph comments section)
Moi-Meme • 2 hours ago
The reduced visibility of Mr; Terry’s holding in The company might turn out to be something of a tonic for Quindell.
Unlike, I suspect, a lot of critics, I have done my own research and still think that there is plenty to go for…….whatever Batman & Robin might say…..
So I’m hanging on to my own shareholding and will hopefully have something to smile about in a year or two when the guru led lemmings try to scramble back up the cliff to once more climb aboard…
Phil
Here is a request that might fall on deaf ears, perhaps not with the long & strong. Words fail me
TooTerrible
Posts: 44
Observation
Opinion: Strong Buy
Price: 32.75
RT Rightful Recognition
Today 23:02
RT never invited or forced anyone to invest in QPP or any of his former enterprises and he should be recognised for having the foresight and touch of a genius. He has habitually spotted gaps in the market where no one else has and he’s created numerous successful businesses from nothing. There’s not a business in the land that doesn’t sometime have growing pains and revenue recognition falling behind for a bit. If the bank funding was withdrawn or the debtors questioned in most companies…there would be very little left in the entire stock market let alone the Footsie. Worth remembering that in all drama and machinations levelled at QPP and RT. Give them a break, please!
Stephen Peel
downbutnotout 428 posts
RE: Early night
perhaps this was RT’s leaving present to the company to help shore up condidence.. sell to a big name II like Goldman
dasv
advfn. 45 years in the markets :)
turnerpa51 11 Dec’14 – 09:11 – 19646 of 19646 0 0
Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. It has raised a flag, but as he has been ousted under a big black cloud I don’t agree these were sold voluntarily and only a complete idiot would sell at the these prices in such huge quantities. Obviously the shares were oversold, no one knows the bottom of the recent terrible downward trend, but I’m personally guessing, based on 45 years experience of the markets, that we are now over the worst. Good luck all long term holders. Goodbye shorters.
JUSTCURIOUS
I must retract my earlier submission. Ben Edelman has now seen sense (albeit at the second time of asking – at first he defended his actions to the Business Insider).
http://www.benedelman.org/
Nonetheless he has shown integrity and deserves credit for a sincere apology.
Of course, this unexpected publicity is a significant boon for the UK Investor Show – for the second year in a row! I look forward to next year’s stunt with great anticipation…
zeronegative
Well the Pinocchio of the LSE board, Robbajob, has sold out…Apparently he was a trader as well as an investor. So telling people to buy 15 times a day, boasting of £50k buys when he would be selling. Forgets to mention he bought at £2, £1.50 all the way down to £0.40p. He loaded up Monday as well. Biggest liar I have ever seen on a BB.
“I AM OUT
The sp has all this time been pressurised from Rob terry!!!
ITS DISGUSTING”
“spikey, i bought barrel loads in the 40s and sold that bunch at average 88p
so stick your “ludicrous” where the sun dont shine pal
the mad accountant
LSE has, of course, gone into meltdown following RT’s bombshell yesterday. One shrewd investor, however, is looking for the Second Coming…
Bearraider
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RT shareholding
Today 09:14
Whilst it is entirely possible that RT has sold his shares can I just point to what seems to have been overlooked,
As a director all ‘family holdings’ would have to be declared as RT may have a beneficial interest in them. He would also have to declare any shares he held even if he only had 1. HOWEVER now he is not a director he does not have to declare his holding if they are under 3% (3% + termed a major holder) notice he has reduced his holding to 2.99% Funny that!!. However as he is no longer a director he DOES NOT have to declare family holdings so he could simply transfer them to his wife. There are no tax problems in that, However if she held more than 3% she would have to declare her holding. Shares could also be put in a trust for a child, and probably the dog and the hamster if your lawyers were clever enough. So whilst like many other LTSH of QPP who would prefer to see RT completely off the scene I fear we may be just seeing some smoke and mirrors to make it look like RT is gone. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if RT’s many friends are building stakes at 30p with a view to him eventually making a return to take QPP and taking it private [end]
You heard it here first, folks – Rob Terry’s share sales was just the first step in him taking QPP over again (so he wasn’t interested in the £9m at all then…!!)
Dominic Cooper
Today 09:35 on LSE Board.
On news of the price reaching 40p (i.e. 93.8% drop since April 2014)
chasf — Posts: 606 — Price: 38.00
RE: Abt to break 39 Barrier
40s? To quinfinity and beyond!
MS
Some great ones from Dictum at FTAlphaville.
¨and you sip warm lattes¨….a post-modern version of the famous Monty Python ¨fart in your general direction¨
Dictum meum pactum2 hours ago
@Markey You can name many more that are perfectly sound but have seen their share prices manipulated by shorts sellers posting false rumours and innuendos.We all know the power that social media has and once damage has been done and doubt sown,how hard it is to restore confidence especially in current market conditions.
Short sellers are simply scavengers that are nothing but a cancer on society.
The whole stock lending game needs to be overhauled and you have to ask yourself why shorting is banned in many other countries.?
Dictum meum pactum20 hours ago
@Paul Murphy So why not start making balanced reports? Your publication has participated in the destruction of hundreds of millions of pound of UK investors savings.
You should be ashamed of yourselves and you sip you lukewarm lattes.
Dictum meum pactum18 hours ago
Oh but that is precisely the point.If it does not turn out to be “dodgy” the tax dodging hedge funds will have already been long gone,yet savers money has been vapourised.
There is a presumption of innocence and the tom winnifrith’s of this world have rather awkward track records themselves to be self appointed judge and juries
Dictum meum pactum21 hours ago
You really are a toxic individual.You are de facto supporting tax dodging cayman island market manipulators.
There are working people whose employment you are toying with at these companies.
Why does your rag try to destroy UK ,especially tech companies,instead of trying to be constructive?
Dictum meum pactum21 hours ago
@Edward Quince @Dictum meum pactum Yes I really do.Publications like the FT are de facto doing the dirty work of tax dodging cayman island hedge funds.
Can I also remind you that to date nobody has been charged with anything at all.
All we have learned is Tiger pretended to be Spanish,German co’s and who knows what else to convey a false message.Market manipulators pure and simple.
Meanwhile the Quindell’s businesses continue winning new contracts.
This publication has never been supportive of UK tech.Just read their constant snide remarks.
Dictum meum pactum20 hours ago
@Edward Quince So you shares have been shorted by a very powerful tax dodging hedge fund.They are down 90%.You have been ousted from the board.
Would any sane person do anything but sell and try to salvage what little he had left?
Come on get real,don’t fall for the city spin.
The reality is now he is gone and the overhang has been cleared.You are able to pick up a company trading at fifty percent of sales,a p/e of 1 and actually makes considerable profits.
They closed up 10% today and Investec has doubled their holdings
dasv
Squire007 is not only totally misguided and wrong but abusive to someone who correctly called QPP from the beginning.
squire007 11 Dec’14 – 17:14 – 18507 of 18558 3 1
paulypilot
10 Dec’14 – 21:55 – 18411 of 18506 16 2
Right.
EVERY SINGLE abusive bull on Quindell needs to form an orderly queue, and APOLOGISE to those of us who raised questions, and said this stock was dodgy as hell, in my case for the last 2 years.
Form an orderly queue to apologise. Because you were wrong. You were also ignorant, abusive, thick, and repugnant.
If any of you have an ounce of decency, you will apologise, unreservedly to people like me who warned you for the last 2 years what a pile of crap Quindell was. Yet all you could do in response is abuse us.
I will be amazed if a SINGLE ONE OF YOU actually apologises here.
You lost your money on QPP through hubris & stupidity. And falling victim to an obvious conman. Let me know the next stock you buy.
Paul.
You absolute PRICK.
This has been a full on illegal con job by ‘outsiders’ paying no tax.
Get in the queue for jail time.
They attack euro fast growing profitable companies for illegal gains.
Clever but fekking fraud !!!!!!!!!!!!
The apology ain’t coming but the real worth and SP is.
GL
diabel
jptop7 thinks all our problems are over……
jptop7
RE: Two Blue Days Scouser
Today 16:40
I am going for 5 in a row at least. The rest of the stock market is not having a good day and we are up 15% I mean It looks like a serious return to fame and fortune based on the Big Picture. Have A Nice Weekend All
JUSTCURIOUS
In place of Ben Edelman, I nominate Bengt Saelensminde, a professional market commentator over at MoneyWeek.
Apparently, Bengt feels he has “ been imploring Quindell investors to wake up and smell the coffee for over a year and a half”:
http://moneyweek.com/right-side-beware-aim-stocks-regulation/
This may be the message which Bengt believed he was communicating in the few articles he wrote on Quindell, however it certainly was not the message which came across!
Bubbidy
This must surely be a classic of self-delusion:
http://quindellecho.com/2014/12/12/are-quindells-institutional-investors-pulling-the-strings/
TW9120
From lse.co.uk this afternoon. Words fail me….
kenny100
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View Thread (4)I LOVE THIS ONEToday 16:55Compare Quindell profits for 2014 & 2015 against FTSE100 companies.
OCTOBER 12, 2014 9:35 PM
Quindell’s net profit after tax is forecast to be £263m this year (having posted £123m in H1), and £454m in 2015.
Below is a selection of FTSE100 co’s that are achieving lower profits than Quindell:
Babcock…………Market cap £5.3bn …….Last yr £180m, next yr forecast £323m
Intertek…………Market cap £4.0bn……..Last yr £200m, next yr forecast £224m
Coca Cola HBC….Market cap £4.8bn……..Last yr £221m, next yr forecast £296m
Bunzl……………Market cap £5.2bn…….Last yr £207m, next yr forecast £272m
Meggitt…………Market cap £3.5bn………Last yr £232m, next yr forecast £250m
London Stock Ex..Market cap £6.3bn……..Last yr £170m, next yr forecast £339m
Smiths………….Market cap £4.7bn………Last yr £233m, next yr forecast £339m
Aggreko……….Market cap £3.7bn……….Last yr £246m, next yr forecast £210m
Sage……………Market cap £3.8bn………Last yr £46m, next yr forecast £243m
Ashtead………..Market cap £4.6bn………Last yr £231m, next yr forecast £293m
And then there are some others making losses:
G4S…………….Market cap £4.0bn……..Last yr £(362)m loss, next yr forecast £202m profit
Wm Morrison….Market cap £3.6bn………Last yr £(238)m loss, next yr forecast £303m profit
And then there are others with net profits in the high-200s and 300s, which Quindell will overtake going into 2015, such as Travis Perkins, Aberdeen Asset Management, Admiral, Persimmon, Burberry, Whitbread, Weir, and Direct Line.
So that’s 20 companies in the FTSE100 that either are or soon will be less profitable than Quindell.
struie
From LSE BB just a very small selection, you could just post the entire board!!
Jmills Posts: 215 Observation Opinion: Strong Buy Price: 41.50 View Thread (7) RE: chasf Today 23:19 There is no evidence .Just a jounalist saying there was a rumour (that proberly will be retracted ) .that David was looking for a replacement Big blue day tomorrow Big reason all big companies are closing or have closed there shorts by now .Followed by small shorts panicking .You can see them on here all day .S- itting them self Good night Ho Ho HoAlacazam
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RE: IF QPP has no NOMAD
Today 23:27
Shame this is not happening as suspension would be GREAT. 30 days off market, come back with 2014 results, PWC report, new chairman, new NEDS, new broker. Oh, except for you killer, assuming you are short.
adamsrups
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Jtop
Today 19:39
Would rather watch you say goodbye to them as they disappear one by one, Lets just hope some of them get hurt in some fashion
What a bunch of COQ’s!!
Juicin Drumroll
TW,
Is this finished for good now? Where’s Week 8 of this competition?
Lots of comedy gold still coming from the cult members & nutters.