Firstly so many thanks to all of you who donated to the Woodlarks Christnas Grotto appeal. 101% of our target has now been reached so I'll call it a day. Thank you again. In today's podcast I also discuss Big Dish (DISH), and Dev Clever (DEV) two examples of why you should never invest in an IPO and I have data to back that up. I look at Tern (TERN) and at Sound Energy (SOU), shame on James Parsons, and then in detail at Velocys (VLS).